That's That Shit: 10/24/2012: Iron Man 3 Trailer, Archie and Glee Crossover and Lebron James

A comics news article

That's That Shit

Last Week's News, This Week's Comics for 10/24/2012


Hi. That's That Shit is exactly what it says above -- we talk in-depth about everything that happened in the comics world last week, and then look forward to some notable releases slated for this coming Wednesday.

Your panel of judges are Comics Bulletin Managing Editors Danny Djeljosevic and Nick Hanover, who pretty much have paper and ink in their blood, and CB Columns Editor Andrew Tan, who got his start in comics late in life through Adrian Tomine and is slowly dipping his toes into the broader aspects of the medium. So we deliver the news, Andrew asks the questions and hopefully everyone learns something.

Bang on.






P.O.S. is in need of a kidney transplant. So if you have an extra kidney, let him know. Otherwise, the least you could do is buy his new album, We Don't Even Live Here.




The Iron Man 3 Trailer is Out

Just moments after the teaser trailer came out, actually.



Danny: Remember the days when we thought it was totally ridiculous that Marvel Studios was leading their big cinematic push with an Iron Man movie? We were very dumb, but the movies were a hit and now we have our first post-Avengers Marvel movie, where Tony Stark appears to be reeling from the events of 2012's big team-up movie and the Mandarin and Guy Pearce are set on destroying his life. It's a bit Dark Knight Rises what with the enemies from the first movie coming back to fuck shit up. But it's directed by Shane Black so it'll have lots of pithy comebacks and such.

Nick: The involvement of Shane Black essentially guaranteed I'd be buying a ticket to this opening day, since the last time he and RDJR teamed up it was on the wonderful (and career reviving, in RDJR's case) Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which remains one of my favourite neo-noirs. In Downey Jr., Black has a perfect vehicle for those pithy comebacks and I'm reasonably confident that no matter how formulaic the plot winds up being, the chemistry between director and lead will more than make up for it.

Andrew: I am very excited about this movie and I can't help but hope for the return of Evil Ben Folds, aka Justin Hammer. Also, do you guys know if the Mandarin spoke in a stereotypical Kato-like accent a la the Green Hornet?

Nick: Does this answer your question, Andrew?

Andrew: Oh god.


WB Gets Serious About Justice League Film

Wants to Know If That Joss Whedon Fellow is Available



Nick: Warner Bros' track record when it comes to adapting DC franchises is less than stellar, but given the success of that Avengers movie you may have heard about and the recent court decision that effectively secured their ownership of 50% of Superman, WB is now speeding up development on their long gestating Justice League film. Of course, much of Marvel's success with their films has been attributed to the shared continuity of the properties they hold the film rights to, which allowed the core figures of the Avengers -- Iron Man, Captain America, Thor and the Hulk -- to have their own wildly successful films before their team-up hit theatres this summer. DC not only lacks that shared continuity, but of the planned Justice League roster, only one hero (Batman) has had a successful franchise in the past two decades while two of the other JL characters (Wonder Woman and Flash) have yet to appear in films at all. WB seems to hope that a Justice League film (and the potential success of the upcoming Man of Steel) will be provide the boost that DC needs with its film properties.

Andrew: Honestly, it's hard for me to imagine this succeeding with all the points you bring up Nick. You're basically asking everyone to care about characters they'll be meeting for the first time and kind of undermining any drama of the next films because any villain after Justice League has to be smaller in scope.

Danny: I think doing the reverse of Marvel's method might work for DC -- the fact that it'll be a movie where Batman and Superman occupy the same screen will draw audiences, I think -- but their problem is that, judging by Green Lantern, they can't seem to figure out who to hire to make these films. Meanwhile Marvel Studios have made some pretty daring choices (Jon Favreau, Kenneth Branagh) and some serious no-brainers (Joss Whedon, Joe Johnston).


Live Action Family Circus Film in Development

Humanity Prepares for Inevitable Live Action Funky Winkerbean Film Doomsday Event



Nick: Because Marmaduke was such a rousing success, Fox has now moved forward on making a Family Circus film and they've even hired two basically unknown screenwriters with hardly any experience to bring it to life. Because, hey, who needs actual, quality screenwriters and original ideas when you can just get two random hacks to adapt the world's second least beloved comic strip for you? Especially when said quality screenwriters can't stop laughing long enough to actually respond to you when you ask if they'd like to write a live action Family Circus film.

Andrew: A mini-economy of at least 100 people will be built around said Family Circus, a one panel/one sentence comic, film. And people say we're in tough economic times.

Danny: I'm so stoked that a Family Circus film is going to exist. I'm never going to watch it, but I think it needs to be made or else we'd be wondering, "Huh, why haven't they made a Family Circus movie yet? Not that I'm going to watch it, but you'd think they'd have made one by now."


Glee and Archie Are Crossing Over

Finally, Glee reaches a medium where we don't have to listen to Glee covers.



Danny: Archie #641 will kick off a multi-part crossover with the cast of Glee written by Glee writer Robert Aguirre-Sacasa and drawn by Archie regular artist Dan Parent, Comics Alliance reports. I love Archie and Glee shot itself in the foot after the first half of Season 1. Graeme McMillan points out that three of the Glee actors were obviously redrawn on that cover, which reminds me of the time they redrew Superman's head in all those Jack Kirby comics and completely puts me into a rage worse than the last time I saw an episode of that prime-time-karaoke-ass show.

Andrew: How can anyone genuinely think something from Glee can survive without an a capella version of some current pop song? Will the comic come with a download card?

Nick: Well, this kind of gimmicky crossover isn't new to comics, since in the past it's given us such bizarre mash-ups like the Avengers & David Letterman and that time Savage Dragon endorsed Obama. Archie and Glee is almost perfect synergy, though, since recently Archie has tied itself to gay rights in a way that Ryan Murphy wishes he could pull off. Plenty of comic fans don't know about Archie's progressive bent, let alone Glee fans, so the likelihood of this opening Glee fans' eyes to the series is good. If you ask me, this is the type of partnership Marvel and DC should be looking for, rather than, say, giving basketball players their own power fantasy in panel form.

Andrew: Also, what's the deal with the redrawn Superman head Danny?

Danny: When Jack Kirby jumped ship to DC Comics from Marvel, he decided to take over their lowest selling book (Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olsen) so that he wasn't putting anybody out of a job on any of their more successful books. Jack Kirby draws unmistakably like Jack Kirby, and I suppose DC had a problem with putting out a comic where Superman didn't look like their milquetoast DC house style, so they had some regular Superman artists redraw the head to resemble the guy appearing in Action Comics. It's really dumb, but it makes for a hilariously bizarre effect.


Marvel Made a Lebron James Comic

Correction: Marvel Made a Lebron James Comic Where HE HAS ROBOT LEGS


(via CBR)




Andrew: I know next to nothing about professional basketball, but if this doesn't involve a chaos dunk I'm not interested. Also seriously, why didn't they hire Chef Boyardee of Barkley, Shut up and Jam: Gaiden to write this one?

Nick: Because they're too busy writing the Shaq equivalent of JCVD, obviously.





Multiple Warheads: Alphabet to Infinity #1 (of 4)

(Brandon Graham; Image)


Sexica and her Werewolf boyfriend Nikoli travel across a sci-fi, fantasy Russia smoking singing cigarettes. Meanwhile the organ hunter, Nura is sent out with a severed head and instructions to find its body.

Danny: New Brandon Graham comics make us happy. Fairbanks already reviewed it, but lemme tell you what makes Brandon Graham so great: he's a distinct voice in comics with a penchant for puns that puts Andrew and I to shame. He's a great artist whose work branches out into manga-style territory (King City), European barbarian sci-fi (Prophet) and even porn (Pillow Fight). So, yeah -- I'm excited for this book.

Nick: Graham is my favourite kind of comic creator, one who effortlessly fits in to both the pop and art comic worlds, with his incredible imagination and willingness to toy with the structures and forms of the medium wherever possible. 2012 has been a huge year for him and I don't think he'll be slowing down any time soon.

Andrew: Don't forget, Graham also draws the ROUNDEST BUTTS IN THE BIZ. Seriously how close do you think the butts in this book will approach the proper x2 + y2 = r2 ?

Nick: I don't remember that formula appearing in the lyrics of "Baby Got Back," are you sure you've got it right?

Andrew: Apparently the fine folks over at MANswers have uncovered a better equation anyway.

Danny: [cuts off penis out of shame for own gender]


Wolverine MAX #1

(Jason Starr, Roland Boschi, Connor Willumsen; Marvel)

ALL-NEW ONGOING SERIES! Your favorite X-Man done the way you wanted to see him--in a no-holds-barred MAX series! Written by award-winning crime novelist Jason Starr (PUNISHER MAX, The Chill). In modern-day Tokyo, Logan gets pulled into a terrorist's plot...or was he the target all along? A new look at Wolverine's past!

Danny: Marvel's traditionally been a bit reluctant to do adults-only MAX comics based on the characters they make toys from (save The Punisher), so it's surprising to see Wolverine MAX existing, especially while the publisher is owned by Disney. From this, I expect a gritty, ultraviolent bit of comic book pulp. If Wolverine MAX isn't a hit, I'll be shocked.

Andrew: Do you think this is the leadup before another Wolverine reboot considering how the last Wolverine movie completely tanked? 

Danny: Another Wolverine movie taking place in Japan is already shooting. I can say with confidence it won't be nearly as bad as the first one.

Nick: Honestly, I think this is happening because in the Marvel U, Wolverine has suddenly gone from Marvel's Premier Loner to a guy who has suddenly found himself incapable of saying no to teams that offer him membership. A MAX series makes perfect sense because it allows the old school Wolverine to have a designated outlet, where he doesn't have to be involved in a team for every letter of the alphabet and where he can be the brutal samurai Chris Claremont and Frank Miller turned him into way back when. I don't think the film really enters into the equation, especially since it's not a Marvel production and since it's likely going to be PG-13 again anyway. 

That aside, I have to say that I'm a little disappointed in the creative line-up here. Starr's Vertigo Crime entry The Chill was one of my least favourite releases in that line and I'm not sure a crime novelist is the right fit for Wolverine, who doesn't solve crimes so much as he causes and expands on them. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but this isn't something I'm going to rush to pick up. I mean, come on, look at that plot summary! Is this the Wolverine version of Taken??

Andrew: Nick, you've now implanted the image of Liam Neeson playing Wolverine and I must thank you.


Came the Dawn and Other Stories

(Wally Wood; Fantagraphics)

From the legendary Wally Wood, Fantagraphics proudly presents one of two premiere releases in our highly-anticipated new EC reprint line. Ranging from supernatural shockers from the Tales from the Crypt and The Haunt of Fear to pointedly contemporary crime thrillers from Crime SuspenStories, these compelling and superbly crafted classics will be accompanied by extensive essays and notes on these historic stories by EC experts.

Danny: I've probably said this before, but Fantagraphics puts out a nice mix of new stuff and beautiful-looking archival material. Here we've got a collection of EC Comics by Wally Wood, one of the unsung legends of comics. He's not known as well in the superhero crowd aside from co-creating T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents and drawing some Daredevil, but he's a master of the form, and if you even remotely care about the process of making comics you've studied his "22 Panels that Always Work!!" I've got it taped to the wall next to my desk.

Nick: The last couple years have been great for reevaluations of lesser known comic figures and Fantagraphics has played a big part in that. Wood's EC material is amongst his finest work and even if you're unfamiliar with him as a creator, EC itself is an easy recommendation for exploration.

Andrew: Wally Wood? More like you all-ey should buy this comic right?


Ghost #1 (of 4)

(Kelly Sue DeConnick, Phil Noto; Dark Horse)

The enigmatic Ghost, along with paranormal investigators Tommy and Vaughn, takes to the streets of Chicago in search of the crystal-powered machine that first conjured her, hoping to find clues to her mysterious past life. But the machine’s original owners have a deadly agenda of their own. Picking up right where Ghost #0 left off, Ghost #1 continues Kelly Sue DeConnick (Captain Marvel) and Phil Noto’s (Angel & Faith) reimagining of Dark Horse’s greatest heroine!

Danny: I always thought Ghost looked like a cool character, even though I hadn't read a damned thing of it except for the #0 issue collecting the serial from the new Dark Horse Presents, which I liked (Zack Davisson wasn't as keen). So I'm stoked to read more of Ghost. DeConnick's a fun writer who's getting a lot of work these days, and I always appreciate Phil Noto when I get him.

Nick: I'm loving the changes Noto has made to Ghost's design and Kelly Sue DeConnick has more than proven herself capable of reinventing lesser known characters with this year's Captain Marvel series, which has breathed new life into Ms. Marvel, formerly one of Marvel's most confusing and poorly treated characters. I'll admit I barely remember the original character, and even then only because I wound up with all of those "Comics' Greatest World!" Dark Horse titles only after I bought the entire comics inventory of a Half-Price Books in Houston once. Still, I can tell you that Ghost was way better than Vortex and Barb Wire. Not that that says much.

Danny: I won't rest until I'm writing a relaunch of Rebel:


Bravest Warriors

(Joey Comeau, Mike Holmes; BOOM! Studios)


Based on ADVENTURE TIME creator Pendleton Ward's brand new animated series!

Join Chris, Wallow, Beth and Danny, four 16-year-old heroes-for-hire, as they warp from galaxy to galaxy, saving alien races with the power of their...emotions. They're noble, righteous and totally bodacious! This new series of original comics based on the new series from ADVENTURE TIME creator Pen Ward is sure to be a smash!

Danny: It's already sold out and gone to a second printing, so catch it if you're into that sort of thing. I am -- I loved the original Bravest Warriors short and hiring Joey Comeau of A Softer World to write it is as inspired as getting Ryan North to script Adventure Time. And Mike Holmes is a supremely talented artist who once drew himself in the art style of pretty much every major comic creator, so this is likely going to be a solid read.

Andrew: I am so unbelievably jazzed for just about everything that has anything to do with Pendleton Ward.




Danny Djeljosevic is a comic book creator, award-winning filmmaker (assuming you have absolutely no follow-up questions) and Co-Managing Editor of Comics Bulletin. Follow him on Twitter at @djeljosevic or find him somewhere in San Diego, often wearing a hat. Read his comic with Mike Prezzato, "Sgt. Death and his Metachromatic Men," over at Champion City Comics and check out his other comics at his Tumblr, Sequential Fuckery. His webcomic The Ghost Engine,with artist Eric Zawadzki, updates twice a week.



When he's not writing about the cape and spandex set and functioning as the Co-Managing Editor of Comics BulletinNick Hanover is a book, film and music critic who has contributed to Spectrum CultureNo Tofu Magazine, Performer MagazinePort City Lights and various other international publications. By which he means Canadian rags you have no reason to know anything about. He also translates for "Partytime" Lukash's Panel Panopticon and you can follow him on Twitter at @Nick_Hanover.



Andrew Tan spends his days working on a bunch of different stuff he can't really explain here. Before that, he majored in Journalism at the University of Florida, where he worked for a few newspapers. He loves comics (obviously), sad music, duck confit and San Francisco. He also has a sentence published in McSweeney's that he is proud of. He was also mocked in Gawker for said sentence, which brings him roughly the same level of pride.

Andrew is one of the many people on the internet vying for the moniker of Tandrew. Some are him, some are not. You can find him on Twitter at @TandrewTan.

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